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| DominicI | REVIEW THE NOVEL | 0 | Mar 29 2009, 1:00 PM EDT by DominicI | ||||
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| holter.jacob | My favorite whitman quote | 0 | Mar 11 2009, 2:27 PM EDT by holter.jacob | ||||
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My favorite quote of walt whitman is "there is no black grass and white grass". This is my favorite quote because i think that he is trying to say that all things are equal. To me it says there should not be seperation of blacks and whites, or sepration from the rich and the poor. But we should all treat eachother as equals and all join together as one. Walt Whitman would always talk about how all different people can come together as one, and break the line between them.
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| DominicI | FAVORITE WHITMAN QUOTE | 10 | Mar 9 2009, 7:42 PM EDT by jordans1112 | ||||
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Type out the line or passage. Explain why this is your favorite and how it can speak to us in 2009.
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| edesotelle | "If you want me again look for me under your boot-soles." | 0 | Mar 9 2009, 2:51 PM EDT by edesotelle | ||||
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I like this quote because it is a very humble phrase, it's not loud and boisterous. Instead, it is almost a whisper, a quiet line of words at the end of a tremendous piece of literary work. It doesn't shout whitman's ideas or proclaim his feelings of love for the world. It is simply a few words made into a simple sentence.
I also like how he portrays himself as omniscent and everlasting. While the body may disappear or lose its recognizable form, the atoms and molecules will remain. So too shall the soul remain. Also, I love how he shows how he is always willing to offer help or advice. You need not look far to find one of America's greatest literary minds for inspiration. |
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| holter.jacob | Whitman section 11 analysis | 0 | Feb 12 2009, 11:18 AM EST by holter.jacob | ||||
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In section 11 one main theme is how it wouldnt be normal for the rich woman to imagine her self swimming with the 28 poor men batheing in the water by the shore. Ussually a rich woman would be disgusted by the fact that there are 28 poor men batheing naked behind her house. But Whitman puts this girl imagineing her self batheing with the men. Another theme of Walts that is expressed in this section is the fact that everything is natural and that we shouldnt be grossed out disgusted by anything that is natural like are own bodies or anybody elses bodies because that is natural. This section also shows how we urge, urge and urge. This section shows this because the young woman has an urge to bathe with the poor men.
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| kevinw1314 | Walt Whitman quote | 0 | Feb 9 2009, 10:33 PM EST by kevinw1314 | ||||
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"I am the poet of the Body, and I am the Poet of the Soul."
I chose this quote because it shows how Walt Whitman is somehow the corporeal and incorporeal in the sense of his poetry. I like how, in the first part, he uses antithesis to show he is not so easily definable. I believe this quote truly explains the essence of Whitman’s poetry. He is certainly a poet of the body, which is indicated earlier when he says, "urge, urge, and urge, always the procreant urge of the world." He talks of his “love root” with quite a cavalier attitude, which indicates that he does not believe in the sheltering of people from parts of the body that society has deemed “unclean.” He also talks about having sex with the air, which seems odd at first glance. However, if you think about it, you can view it as an expression of love, which is not only of nature, but also of the body, which is why he is the poet of the body. This is well complemented by the part about the soul. A lot of Whitman’s poetry prompts the reader to take a look at themselves, and focus on pleasing the self instead of pleasing other people. The soul is the essential being of a person, which is independent of society’s views, for the soul is invisible, and can not be seen as to be judged. He often projects himself into other scenes, which can not be done just with the body. This requires some imagination which, artistically speaking, comes from the soul. This is why this quote is the essence of Whitman. |
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| junior_mirant | Walt Whitman Quote | 0 | Feb 3 2009, 12:59 AM EST by junior_mirant | ||||
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"Divine am I inside and out, and I make holy whatever I touch or am touch'd from."
I chose this quote because; I believe that it’s a great example on how America should be. From my perception it seems as if Whitman is, urging the people to listen and believe. So basically, if America doesn’t learn from their negative experiences then they’ll forever be lost in the wasteland those same experiences. This is relevant to us because, if you don’t live and learn from your experiences then you’ll never get anywhere in life. Whitman reminds America that every sight, smell, sound, taste and could improve the conception of an individual. So Whitman views himself as America’s savior or last hope. So we should let Whitman’s quote, "Divine am I inside and out, and I make holy whatever I touch or am touch'd from." be the center of our everyday activities. If we do so then it may lead us to a new and improved conception of America and the life within. |
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| AlexRich | Was supposed to be in quote. | 0 | Feb 2 2009, 8:27 PM EST by AlexRich | ||||
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| AlexRich | Walt Whitman Quote | 0 | Feb 2 2009, 8:25 PM EST by AlexRich | ||||
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"Be curious, not judgmental."
I enjoy this quote because it is practical to everyday life. People tend to have great prejudice going into a situation and it may severly affect the outcome of that interaction. This quote can also apply to the whole slave controverse going on during his time. A large majority of people in his time were judgemental, from what I have gathered through history classes. This hurt the country as a whole, not only with slaves, but also in social groups. It caused alot of internal fighting, which is not needed. Walt Whitman is saying that if people could go into contact with a clear, un-biased mind; we would be alot better people indivisually and as a whole. To not judge people is extremely hard to do, however. It is human nature to judge things, like we have with murder; and which type of murder is worse than another type. If we go into a situation being curious, we will learn alot more, and the outcome of the interaction will be alot better than the outcome of someone being judgemental. |
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| LucianoF1112 | my qoute is "I too am not a bit tamed, I too am untranslatable." | 0 | Feb 2 2009, 2:46 PM EST by LucianoF1112 | ||||
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This qoute to me says a lot of things. For example its saying that he is one with nature. Technology really doesnt make a difference in his life. He see's a eagle soaring, and feels untamed like it and i can actually relate to that also. I also feel like I belong in the wilderness, soaring around with the other Falcons. I think this qoute can speak to us now in 2009 because, to many people rely on technology to do everything they do. I too like Whitman would love to live in the middle of no where, with no technology and just rely on my too hands, and feet. So don't let the small things in life control you or have you revolve around them. Humans need to get back in touch with their inner self, there animal totem.
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| emilyw1314 | Walt Whitman quote | 0 | Feb 2 2009, 8:41 AM EST by emilyw1314 | ||||
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My favorite quote is, "I saw the marriage of the trapper in the open air in the far west, the bride was a red girl."
I love this quote because it shows that even 200 years ago, there were racial problems, but the best of us could get past them. It's amazing to think how far the world has come over all the years, and how it will continue to grow to really make us all equals. I think this one is so romantic, and you can easily visualize the man sitting around the fire in the fur of all the animals he has caught, and her in a deerskin, Pocahauntas like dress. Her father and the rest of the tribe with headresses, and moccasins. You can easily picture it mixing any cultures. An Indian woman in her sari, with henna tattoos all over her face and hands, to a plain white man and a Catholic wedding. This wedding actually reminds me a lot of the would be of John Smith and Pocahauntas. Perfect, beautiful. All weddings are like that. But this line deffinitely can relate to times like right now with all the possible relationship combinations. Forbidden and extra sweet, or perfectly normal, we are able to do and accept most things like this now. Well, most of us anyway. But this really is a beautiful passage. |
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| Sspantikow | Walt Whitman favorite quote | 0 | Jan 31 2009, 11:09 PM EST by Sspantikow | ||||
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My favorite quote is, "Clear and sweet is my soul, and clear and sweet is all that is not my soul."
I chose this as my quote because it can speak to us in terms of today, or any time period. A lot of us don't see each other as equals, when, in all actuality, no one person is better than another. I hear that all the time, "You are no better than anyone else” And yet sometimes it doesn't stay within us, this thought of everyone having the same rights as you, the same rewards or discipline as you. Sometimes that doesn't sit well with me. I think us, as a nation needs to focus more on people as individuals rather than as groups. The blacks aren't better than the Asians; the whites aren't better than the Hispanics. We (not everyone, but I'm generalizing) tend to classify people according to first impressions, whether that be what race we see, where they live, what their job is or who they hang out with...We stereotype and, I myself, admit that I will occasionally look at someone and pick out their flaws just to make me feel better about myself. That’s not right, and I know that. But I think everyone does that from time to time, no one is perfect and I think we will forever have trouble accepting everyone. Realizing that they are just as beautiful, special and important as us can be a tough job sometimes. I feel a lot of this comes out of stress, jealousy or ignorance. With the economy today, and people losing their jobs to someone else, we need to blame this on someone! Who else but the person who took that from us, and the rest of the ‘group’ that fits with them? It’s sad seeing someone being discriminated against, stereotyped and shot down just because someone cant accept them for whatever reason, but it definitely happens non stop in our society today and I don’t feel we are taking a good enough look at the issue. |
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| beccah1314 | Walt Whitman favorite quote | 0 | Jan 30 2009, 11:48 PM EST by beccah1314 | ||||
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My favorite quote is "all goes onward and outward, nothing collapses"
This quote is saying that nothing can fail, no matter what kind of mistakes you might have made, nothing will fail. This quote kind of makes me think about my friends. If I made a mistake, I no that my friends are there for me and have my back. I know that I can talk to them about my problems and they will help me figure things out and help me down the right path. People can use this quote in 2009 because it makes me think of starting over. If people want to start over, this quote is saying to keep living life and not worry about what happened in the past. People can also use this quote to think about what is happening right now, with the changes in the economy and with the change of President. This quote is an optimistic quote because it is telling people that even though we are in a recession things are going to turn out okay in the future. Because there is a new President, Barack Obama, there will be change. Some people may not like the changes that he will make, but they can think about the future, and that all these changes can help in the long run. I feel that Walt Whitman had a very optimistic point of view when he wrote "Song of Myself." He would talk about looking forward and not thinking about the past and what mistakes he might have made. Instead Walt Whitman learned from his mistakes. |
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| Jhagen | Favorite Walt Whitman Quote | 0 | Jan 30 2009, 11:47 PM EST by Jhagen | ||||
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I would have to say that my favorite Qote would be "Stand up for the Stupid and crazy."
I chose this quote because it realtes my daily life. Many people do make fun of the dumb and stuipd but very few people stand up for them. I am one of those few people who would defend them to the end. When their is some sort of injustice going on i try to make it just. I stand with the people in which society has looked down as the Black sheep. Yet when i defend them, most of society labels me as a Black sheep too. I once aced much worse on the dumb and stuipd then society does when i was a child but i wil not be lead into a heap of lies. If i must take most of the punishment from them just to make the lives of the outcasted a little easier i will do it. One man can only last the punishment for so long. It so weakness his soul, his spirit, his will. One man can't do it alone. We get weaker and weaker everyday of defending them. Yet every day we must also live a lie. If people see that we are touched by this punishment the anyone can be courpted. We are tired. People like me defend the misunderstood because we feel like we have a untold, unspoken duty to protect those that need us the most. We do this not for the recognition or the glory but for the sheer will of doing it. The fact that you might have made a difference in the world for the better. The universe is so vast and we are so samll, the one thing that we can every truly control, is wether we are good or evil. We fight with the good. We are lonely deep inside because we are truely the misundrstood. We ar the heros whose stories will never be heard. We will fade into the fabric of time and be forgoten like the stars fading into the moring light. We truly we to be understood. I say all of this because people who defend the misunderstood are also misunderstood but more importantly they do it because they are the line the fights back the chaos. I hope that explains it. |
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| SydZ1112 | Favorite Whitman Quote | 0 | Jan 30 2009, 10:58 PM EST by SydZ1112 | ||||
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"Creeds and schools in abeyance, Retiring back a while sufficed at what they are, but never forgotten."
This is my favorite Whitman quote because putting school on the back burner is hard for me personally. As much as I try to live life to it's fullest now, I often let school get in the way, taking over my thoughts. My thoughts, the once place I shouldn't always have to be concerned with the expectations of the world but I allow myself to be. I think what Whitman is saying is that life would be fuller and easier to appreciate if you were concerned with pleasing yourself first then meeting the expectations of the world, but to keep in mind that school is needed, and of value. He is saying to go to school and but let the expectations relax every once in a while, without forgetting the knowledge that will lead you to new understanding and appreciation of the world. This quote speaks to us now in 2009 because our academic world in America has become so competitive, especially in colleges. Today college is so competitive that some kids lives are based on college acceptance from the moment they begin school (thanks to their parents goals for their children, still harmful no matter how caring). This causes these children to become obsessed with academic standing. So much so that their personal loves come to a halt. They become so focused on getting into to a good college, so that they can have a career that will earn them plenty of money, so that they can retire with heath benefits so that etc. They are on the fast track to unhappiness. If we would worry about our own emotional well being rather then the expectations of the world we could be so much happier. This is not to say that school should be forgotten, granted valuable life lessons come from a formal education. Life lessons that should not be forgotten, but school should not be one’s first and only priority, but rather one’s elf and understanding of the world should take first place. |
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| BHoban | Favorite Whitman Quote | 0 | Jan 30 2009, 8:55 PM EST by BHoban | ||||
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My favorite quote by Walt Whitman in “ Song of Myself” is when he said, “ I sound my barbaric yawps over the roofs of the world.”
This is my favorite quote because I can relate to Whitman because this day and age everyone in the world has a right or freedom to speak. There is no more segregation in America; there are now more freedoms than back in Whitman’s day. Blacks, Mexicans, and other people of different ethnicities have freedom in America right now. Today we can yawp what we want to others in the world. This quotes is one of Whitman’s best because it describes him and how he thinks of himself to others. He doesn’t care what others think he’ll go around saying what he wants and the people who listen and the people who don’t, it doesn’t matter to him. Whitman wanted the people in his day to listen to him. He wanted to be heard around the world. Today with new technology we can talk to people anywhere in the world. Also new technology helps us to here our leaders in America like President Barack Obama when he gave his inaugural address. Just imagine if everyone in the world could have heard Whitman back then. There would have been people who liked his poetry and those who didn’t. This quote tells us that we should not be quiet and unknown we should speak what we think and yell it to the world for everyone to here. |
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| hellesco | Favorite Whitman Quote | 0 | Jan 30 2009, 8:40 PM EST by hellesco | ||||
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My quote is "I too am not a bit tamed, I too am untranslatable"
I chose this quote because in a sense it can be applyed to every person in the world. No one person can take and analyze a person so that they know all about them and can pick them apart like they are some long geometry problem. No one can translate a person because it is simply impossible. It would be like trying to figure out what a crying baby wants or writing a biography on some famous person who did something and trying to figure out all about what they are and why they did it. This can be applyed today to a lot of situations. One of these mainly can be help in problem solving. When people try to help their friends or family with problems, you cannot figure out what is wrong or what to do without talking to the person and getting the necessary "translation" from them. Nothing can be analyzed and solved or "translated" without the help needed from an outside source. Whitman wrote these poems to help realize what we should do in life and gave us assistance on how to live life. People have tried to figure out what he meant but in the end what he meant is what we think he meant and how it should be carried out. As much as Whitman is untranslatable, everyone is untranslatable to every aspect of what they do. |
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| Jhagen | Writing a poem | 0 | Jan 30 2009, 5:47 PM EST by Jhagen | ||||
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i just wanted to write my own poems and have people critize it.
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| JosephS1314 | Favorite Whitman Quote | 0 | Jan 30 2009, 3:55 PM EST by JosephS1314 | ||||
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My quote is "All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses, and to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier."
This quote represents many things in my life, the United States, and in the world in 2009. It says that all things expand and grow and that nothing truely dies or collapses. In individual lives, sometimes things do not work out the way you planned and life takes a turn toward the worse. Whitman reminds us that the bad things will not kill us, but they will reshape into something better. An example would be if you lost a relative or friend you know. You can take that tragedy as something to improve your relationship with God or other people you do not talk to as much. The United States is in a recession right now, as most people have felt on their investments. This can be taken as a way to evaluate how you spend your money and ways you can save it, like skipping the daily Starbucks or McDonalds. The world can use this quote to know that we should not hate each other for past trespasses but are destined to move on and accept everyone as indivduals. Some people in this world think that there is only one right way to do something and that it is there way. These words say that there are multiple answers and that life takes different directions than what we expect. The roadblocks in life, like deaths, bad relationships, and personal challenges, can be overcome not by smashing through the roadblock but by finding another way around. They are just detours that every human goes through. |
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| JohnB2207 | Favorite Whitman quote | 0 | Jan 30 2009, 2:41 PM EST by JohnB2207 | ||||
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my favorite whitman quote from "Song of Myself" is "I too am not a bit tamed, I too am untranslatable"
This is my favorite line because it define's most of america. Even Though it doesn't seem like it, because some people seem really tamed and caged in their normal life that they dont even know what freedom is let alone what it means, that is what makes me sad about america is that some people cant be able to be free and do what job they really want to and are sad about it, because they have to support a family member or support their kids or pay bills, that makes them tamed when they should really be happy with their job and have fun doing it, this would really make america a better place and if people really did the job that they wanted to do that would make them more free and un-caged, another reason i liked this line is because of the word untranslatable, this word could mean so meny diffrent things in the way that he says it, because i think of it as saying that the world is untranslatable, because the world should really be understood but most people ignore what it is saying and that's why it is untranslatable, because to understand the world you have to really listen to what it is saying to you, because of what we the "humans" did to the world it makes it harder to hear the world and listen to it, because of the buildings and the car's and every other distraction in this "human" life it really does make it diffcult to hear him, we are also distroying this world by the polution and that is distroying the worlds "heart" in a way, soon if we keep going the way we do then nobody will be able to hear the world and even if they do hear the world they will never be able to undertand it, that really makes me dissapointed in not only our ablilty to listen and pay attion to the things around us but how much we acually care about the world we live in. |
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