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Dec 10 2008, 11:08 PM EST by
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I didnt know if there was already a thread for the picture of the man on the pumpkin because it describes Thoreau perfectly. He would rather sit on a pumpkin by himself then share a velvet cushion. This is exactly how his life was. With the pumkin its a little more difficult to sit on and a little more uncomfortable and but he has the peace of being by himself. On the velvet cushion he has to share with everyone else even though it might be a little more comfortable. In his life he would rather have lived in the tiny uncomfortble house, instead of sharing a city with everyone else even though it might have been more comfortable and convienent.
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RE: The man and the pumpkin . . .
By: A.Balistreri,
Dec 10 2008, 11:08 PM EST
So, I just noticed this picture of the tattoo and I love the quote by Thoreau. "I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion." I totally agree with what Megan is saying. This quote defines the life that Thoreau led. The quote is all about simplicity, nature and self- relevance, key beliefs of Thoreau. He believed that in order to really live (“live deliberately”), you had to get rid of all the complications and unimportant things in your life. To be one with nature and truly appreciate what it has to offer by seeing the beauty in everything made your life worth living. I think Thoreau was all about finding himself. If you’re on a crowded velvet couch with a few other people, it’s going to be hard to concentrate on what really matters. If you choose to sit on a pumpkin, or a tree stump or a hard rock, though like Megan said it’s more uncomfortable, you choosing to be different, to be yourself, your discovering who you are and living how you want to. I also think that this quote describes Thoreau’s live perfectly because he was all about not wasting your life. I think that if you always do the same thing over and over again (like sitting on a velvet couch), never trying to venture out to try new things, you’re not “sucking the marrow out of life”. Go out and try new things, don’t be content with your life if it isn’t making you happy. Who knows maybe you think you like velvet couches crowed with lots of people…but when you try a pumpkin by yourself, you could be a lot happier. Anyways, I just wanted to comment on this picture because I think the tattoo and quote are really cool. Thought that must be a pretty large tattoo.
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Dec 8 2008, 1:32 PM EST by
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Who is this is in the photo... where was it taken...and why do you think this photo is on the American Myth website?
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RE: Photo 1
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Dec 8 2008, 1:32 PM EST
I have been thinking very long and hard about this one as you can tell! I believe that that the person in this picture is Mr.I as stated, and that the mountans are those of Mount Rainer. I believe this is american myth, because it shows how one of our big american myths is freedom. Here in America we are lucky enough to be free and have the freedom of whatever it is (speech, etc.). Also, this picture sort of reminds me of last year's english class when we learned about the journey of a hero. It looks as if you are traveling down a long road and will be facing many obstacles, but eventually, you will get through it. These american myths about freedom and journey of a hero really apply to this photo.
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What has become of them.
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Oct 26 2008, 2:10 PM EDT by
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In the beginning of the curcible everyone does what there were intended to do, and that is work and pray. everyone seems to repeat the same thing every day even though some had issues with one another that they believe needed to be resolved they tend to keep it all to themselves. That is untill Mr. proctor has done the unthinkable among salem and that is commiting adultery with Abigail. Over time Abigail, with her false love for Proctor from that very night damned Mrs. Proctor into death within some sort of ritual TItuba was conducting with the other girls one night just to have Mr. Proctor all to herself, and then all hell broke loose when Parris witnessed the event and the lies and accusations began to stir all around Salem. Unfortunately it all ended with the deaths of twenty-four people, but seeing the behavior throughout the story of the characters and those who weren't presented in thestory, created a great aspect to the one question I wish to hear, was it in the end that I have seen not humans, but animals. Although man may be the dominant species of this planet we tend to see ourselves as gods yet that is what brings us to our own demise. What has become of salem is now a look back on humanity losing their humanity for the sake of satisfaction oin security from false demons. Every man has thier demons but also their angels and from this play/movie I only saw their demons consuming thier good in them and see beasts among the people of salem However, the condemned were those I was actually intrigued about. They were the ones who never dared to lose their humanity and died as not as animals nor gods but as humans yet that has brought them to the realization the their is no such witch out there but in the people of salem and seeing that led them to their deaths. So what has become of the people of Salem during and after the tragic event of the infamous Salem Witch Trial. please share me your own opinions and if you have questions about my opinions, ask.
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Oct 26 2008, 2:10 PM EDT
hey dude this was awsome seriously i just got done watchin like 4 movies one bein alice n wonderland so my mind is all boggled and ready to think.
haha i love this because u basicaly called humans animals in a sense we all are animals, mind twistin beast.every monster in myth we can name is derived from an aspect of human nature,apperance, or even feeling.this in all mythology from american to indian to greek to whatever our monsters our ourselves.not the animals we attemped to make them look like. minitours for example half MAN half bull but the bull isnt the other half to represent an animal its there to represent the brut strenght, rage, power, and mercilesness of the creature combined with a man highlighting our true inner however present selves.so indeed we are like animals.
Another thing i liked u used from class when we talked about us getting confussed with bein gods ourselves.In my opinion there is a god but i wish nothing more then to call him by a more appropriate name because to me the word GOD is initials for something that allows us to at times become so selfish and riddled with power that we make ourselves Gods. this may sound funny but god is indeed a man made word correct? god didnt come down n introduce himself to us like oh hello my name is god blah blah blah. i take these 3 letters and the only words i see is government over democracy.As i said this is solely in my opinion but this can be said in a number of ways im takin the more modern approch however. I belive this is why we get the sense we can just play god and play like we created everything and we can at any point in time take it back when in fact we cannot.we put our highest selves up on a stand and from that point whomever holds the greatest power over people we allow to convince and hypnotize the rest to follow or belive as they belive. even durin the witch trials u see how brainwashed we were. we did what made the men of power look good rather then be HUMAN we were animals.
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What is "American myth"?
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Oct 17 2008, 3:47 PM EDT by
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Give your growing understanding of the term "myth," what do you suppose we mean by titling the course "American Myth"?
Is there ONE American myth? Are there many? What does it mean to put "American" and "myth" together, to juxtapose them into one phrase? How do you react to the title? How might others?
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RE: What is "American myth"?
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Oct 17 2008, 3:47 PM EDT
Ummmm. I think its something we think we can do , but we can't. This is most likely wrong.
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Population of Salem in 1692
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Oct 13 2008, 5:49 PM EDT by
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During the Salem Witch Trials, the population of Salem was around 550 people. Can you believe that?!? Imagine condemning people that you know and see on a daily basis to death...geez. As a result of the Salem Witch Trials, 24 people died. 19 were hung, four died in jail, and one was tortured to death. 24 is an awfully large percent of 550. They brought their own town's population down by a measurable amount! Hmmm, the 550 figure also puts a new perspective on the 11 children and 26 grandchildren of Rebecca and Francis Nurse! Probably everybody in Salem was a descendent of the Nurse family after a few years time passed, with people getting married to other people within their tiny village. Any thoughts on the subject?
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RE: Population of Salem in 1692
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Oct 13 2008, 5:49 PM EDT
Hmm...24 out of 550 is 4.4%. So if Milwaukee at the last census estimate (2006) had a population of 602,782, then 4.4% of that is 26,522. If we hanged, let die in jail, and/or tortured 26,522 people, that'd be like wiping out
(1) All of Door County, Wisconsin. (I still haven't been there yet. I better go before the next witch hunts!)
(2) All the students in the Madison, Wisconsin, school system
(3) All the black bears in Wisconsin (I know, they're not people, but how do we know that they can't think, feel, believe?)
Thanks for putting it into perspective, Sahar!
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SUGGESTION BOX
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Oct 8 2008, 9:58 PM EDT by
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Thread started: Oct 2 2008, 6:49 PM EDT
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The box is always open!
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Oct 8 2008, 9:58 PM EDT
"Mercedes
Just wondering why is the web page so dark can you make it prettier or at least lighter" Because THE CRUCIBLE is about a very dark part of our history...how's that? :)
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What is "myth"?
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Sep 10 2008, 10:07 PM EDT by
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How would YOU define it for the class? What have you learned in the past (in elementary/middle school, in Freshman English, on your own, etc.)? Why is it important?
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RE: What is "myth"?
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Sep 10 2008, 10:07 PM EDT
Sorry it took me so long to finally figure this out but finally i got it. . . myth is what we make it, they are stories and lessons that describe what we are not truly sure of and i totally agree with everyone that they break down the more complicated things . .
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The myth that we are gods
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Sep 7 2008, 7:52 PM EDT by
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TODAY, we (9/10) discussed the myth that we are gods. Someone said that we (America) help other countries, by using the military, etc.
ON ANOTHER NOTE, Mr. Inouye said it seems that as soon as someone breaks the law or does something bad, we dehumanize them, and call them a monster or something equivalent to that.
AND IN John Winthrop's thing, he says that the people are to be good people and be kind and not do bad things, otherwise the wrath of God will be upon them.
WELL, it seems to me that Americans, even the earliest ones, were already playing by the myth that we are gods. We should realize that maybe we not only play the good facets of god (loving and helping), but also the bad (bringing a wrath on those who do any bad). I think that the Americans in John Winthrop's time would not really be smited by god if they did bad, but rather would inflict a wrath upon eachother. They would probably do what we do today: dehumanize the wrongdoer and act terribly towards them.
I hope that made any sense. I'll try to clear up anything that you guys don't understand. So do you have any thoughts on the subject? Do you buy into the American Myth that we are gods? What do you think about us playing the kind and the not-so-kind facets of god?
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RE: The myth that we are gods
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Sep 7 2008, 7:52 PM EDT
"TODAY, we (9/10) discussed the myth that we are gods. Someone said that we (America) help other countries, by using the military, etc.
ON ANOTHER NOTE, Mr. Inouye said it seems that as soon as someone breaks the lai w or does something bad, we dehumanize them, and call them a monster or something equivalent to that.
AND IN John Winthrop's thing, he says that the people are to be good people and be kind and not do bad things, otherwise the wrath of God will be upon them.
WELL, it seems to me that Americans, even the earliest ones, were already playing by the myth that we are gods. We should realize that maybe we not only play the good facets of god (loving and helping), but also the bad (bringing a wrath on those who do any bad). I think that the Americans in John Winthrop's time would not really be smited by god if they did bad, but rather would inflict a wrath upon eachother. They would probably do what we do today: dehumanize the wrongdoer and act terribly towards them.
I hope that made any sense. I'll try to clear up anything that you guys don't understand. So do you have any thoughts on the subject? Do you buy into the American Myth that we are gods? What do you think about us playing the kind and the not-so-kind facets of god?" i feel that we do think we are gods in some ways, we try to over step our boundaries and I also believe that God gave us the power to control to a point. For example, God gave Adam the power to Name every animal but not the the power to eat from the tree of knowledge
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Sep 3 2008, 10:47 PM EDT by
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What myth means to me: What it means to me is it is telling you something that you donrt know if it is true or false.
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Sep 3 2008, 10:43 PM EDT by
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Where was this photo taken and what does it have to do with American myth?
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Sep 3 2008, 10:43 PM EDT
because i went to google images and first found out exactly how many places had a china town just to cleafiry for my self then i looked at the image and saw the construction and when i looked up the one in new york the building was too different but in san fran it had the exact same building structure as far as the fire escape things. just different lanters but obviously thats easy to change. but in the picture on google it showed a sign sayin peking bazzar in big letters and in smaller ones discount imports and on each side was a design of like a ship on waves and if u look closely to your picture right in front of peking you can see just a hint of the blue and the curve of the wave from the symbol and i figured that has to be it no others matched as perfectly. ;0
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Sep 2 2008, 9:19 PM EDT by
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What does this photo have to do with American myth?
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Sep 2 2008, 9:19 PM EDT
Love it, love it. You're not "going too deep." You're interpreting. Actually, "interpreting" comes from a couple of words meaning "to translate." In other words, you take one thing and translate it into something else, which is what you're doing.
The idea that myth exaggerates is very insightful. The observation that the horse is huge is...well, it's just surprising, isn't it?! I've ridden that horse, I think. I think it's Jack, her stallion, and it's...well...HUGE!!
Mr. Inouye
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